Sponsor |  rationale | Jul 14, 2007 7:30pm | | I'll definitely watch those - I like Ron Paul |
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Sponsor | | rationale | Jul 15, 2007 7:43am | #27 - Regarding building 7 and the physical results that you are claiming are descrepancies, I don't understand why the people most familiar with the construction of the world trade center (the original architects, the construction companies, and thousands of other directly involved in the buildings going back to their construction in the 1960s) have not raised these same points. Did Steven Jones ever ask anyone about the building construction or any other theories as to where that thermite came from? Until other knowledgeable people directly familiar with the buildings are asked about these same issues, its a giant leap to take some unanswered questions and conclude that it was an inside job.
You say that BBC is an extension of MI5 and MI6 - where do you get that? Where is the proof for that?
What is your response to Popular Mechanics' rebuttal to the hole in the pentagon?
Were all the newspapers and other media who tried to find out who the 19 hijackers were, wrong? Are the 19 accused individuals whose pictures were shown all over the world still alive? |
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|  DryFact | Jul 15, 2007 7:52am | 33: the Popular Mechanics guys lied on videotape, in that "debate" with the Loose Change kids, on Democracy Now, they lied about the size of the hole.
youtube.com/watch [youtube.com/watch]
9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 3
that's the end of the story. they just lie, even when it's obvious. they're shills, they get paid to lie.
(of course, Democracy Now put kids against adults, because they are a propaganda arm of the foundations who fund them etc) |
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Sponsor | | rationale | Jul 15, 2007 9:33am | 34: Ok, I guess I'm done debating; just wanted to learn more about the thought process as to why people think it was an inside job etc.
I see, so the Popular Mechanics people get paid by WHO? to lie?? And how do you know they are lying as opposed to the loose change peope lying? I watched the debate as well on Democracy Now. Oh, I see, so who funds Democracy Now? These are outrageous claims with no basis. Anyway, we're never going to reach an agreement here; I do appreciate you sharing your thoughts
And if democracy now is huge propaganda, then CNN etc must say exactly what the people who fund them tell them to say, in which case fringe candidates like Ron Paul , Mike Gravel, Kucinich (all of whom I like) etc would NEVER get interviwed beacause that would be contributing to their popularity etc. which of course doesn't happen - ive seen several interviews with all of them.
You can't just say these things without intricate knowledge of exactly who funds these people etc...
And you didn't answer: WHY DOESNT STEVEN JONES ASK THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING ETC??? or You say that BBC is an extension of MI5 and MI6 - where do you get that? Where is the proof for that? |
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| | DryFact | Jul 15, 2007 1:35pm | 35: I see, so the Popular Mechanics people get paid by WHO? to lie?? And how do you know they are lying as opposed to the loose change peope lying?
because the guy says in the video the hole is 90 feet when I can see with my own eyes that it's more like 15 feet.
what does he think he's doing, lying like that just minutes after the photograph is shown, some kind of Jedi Mind Trick? seriously. end of story. |
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Sponsor | | rationale | Jul 15, 2007 3:51pm | | So why would this popular mechanics person lie? You just get into a continuing web of more and more absurd things that there is absolutely no way to prove. So the popular mechanics guy was paid off - by whom? Why did he accept this bribe? Was the person who approached him with it threatening his family? If so, that means literally hundreds or thousands of people in the government were threatening families to get them to say things to help the conspiracy in which case, why didn't at least one of them do the courageous thing and go to the police? What if five months after the popular mechanics guy or someone was threatened death if he did not say it was 90 feet wide, he went to the police. The word would get out somehow, bottom-line. Anyway, I'm done w/ this forum, nice talking. When you get into the simple questions like how would this have been possible etc they totally overshadow a few uncertainties/abnormalities/questions that people have with regard to specifics of the collapse. I wanted to understand why people think it was an inside job etc, but from a rational standpoint there are going to be abnormalities with every catastrophe but the more questions you ask the more absurd and unprovable the conspiracy gets. |
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| | DryFact | Jul 15, 2007 9:01pm | 37: I can only speculate why he would lie, but the obvious fact is he did.
(actually, it was the other guy who lied about the size of the hole, the PM guy just dodged the question, saying he hadn't looked at that)
youtube.com/watch [youtube.com/watch]
9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 3
(here's the link again)
[no, wait! the liar about the size of the hole, Dunbar is the EXECUTIVE PRODUCER of Popular Mechanics, and he lies about the size of the hole within SECONDS, not minutes, of the photograph being shown of the 16 foot hole.]
I just can't accept that I'm that stupid. is democracy supposed to be based on people thinking they are idiots when they are not?
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911blogger.com/node/10025 [911blogger.com/node/10025]
Richard Gage, AIA, Architect - How The Towers Fell Full Lecture
(speaking of architects.)
(also, the scripted "structural failure" staged actor is shown at around 7:00 in the video)
(watch for a few minutes from 60:00 to learn about "shaped [thermite] charges")
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youtube.com/watch [youtube.com/watch]
Black Panther, Hannity Discuss Bush Hitler & Keith Ellison
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Sponsor | | kamesan | Jul 20, 2007 12:34pm | | "The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." --William Colby |
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| | DryFact | Jul 20, 2007 3:45pm | 39: seeing the way that Cheney and Rumsfeld abused CIA like a red-headed stepchild, and recognizing genuine good people in CIA, like Michael Scheuer, and being fascinated by figures like James Angleton, my feeling at the end of the day is the US needs the CIA more than ever, to put checks on DOD (or whatever mutated outgrowths cultivated by Rumsfeld-Cheney) and out of control greed without any noblesse oblige, that threatens our national security (ie, Cheney)
youtube.com/watch [youtube.com/watch]
Cheney Doomsday |
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